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		<title>A Few More Points on McDonald</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ilya Shapiro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>By Ilya Shapiro</p>I still haven&#8217;t finished reading the full 214-page opinion, but a few points to add to the statement I made yesterday:

Justice Alito&#8217;s plurality opinion, joined by the Chief Justice and Justices Scalia and Kennedy, is a tight 45-page discussion of the history of the right to keep and bear arms and how it relates to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Ilya Shapiro</p><p>I still haven&#8217;t finished reading the full <a href="http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-1521.pdf">214-page opinion</a>, but a few points to add to the <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/06/28/the-court-restores-a-fundamental-right/">statement I made yesterday</a>:</p>
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<li>Justice Alito&#8217;s plurality opinion, joined by the Chief Justice and Justices Scalia and Kennedy, is a tight 45-page discussion of the history of the right to keep and bear arms and how it relates to the Court&#8217;s &#8220;incorporation&#8221; doctrine under the Fourteenth Amendment&#8217;s Due Process Clause.  No excess verbiage, no policy arguments, and, notably, no denial or disparagement of the Privileges or Immunities Clause &#8212; just denying to take up the issue in light of the long line of Substantive Due Process incorporation.</li>
<li>Justice Thomas provides a magisterial 56-page defense of the Privileges or Immunities Clause, resurrecting a long-beleaguered constitutional provision.  While he doesn&#8217;t cite <em><a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1503583">Keeping Pandora&#8217;s Box Sealed</a></em>, Josh Blackman and I are proud to have tracked quite closely the arguments Thomas makes.  Note that without Thomas&#8217;s vote, there is no majority extending the right to keep and bear arms to the states.  That means P or I is relevant and enters the casebooks and Court precedent.</li>
<li>The dissents by Justices Stevens and Breyer, respectively (the latter joined by Justices Ginsburg and Sotomayor), rest almost exclusively on pragmatic arguments.  They seem to think that the right to keep and bear arms is an inconvenient part of the Constitution in our modern (particularly urban) age.  This may or may not be correct as a matter of policy or social science &#8212; the evidence I&#8217;ve seen seems to point against them &#8212; but <em>it&#8217;s irrelevant to the legal analysis</em>.  If the dissenting justices wish to propose a constitutional amendment, I would welcome the ensuing debate.  As it stands, however, their arguments are disturbingly devoid of principled <em>constitutional</em> interpretation.  Note also that neither dissent goes into privileges or immunities analysis, though Justice Stevens argues that the Clause&#8217;s meaning is &#8220;not as clear&#8221; as the petitioners (our side) suggest.</li>
<li>Relatedly, both Justice Stevens and Justice Breyer <a href="http://joshblackman.com/blog/?p=4754">invoke but misunderstand the infamous Footnote Four</a> of the 1937 <em>Carolene Products </em>case, which bifurcated our rights, privileging political rights over economic liberties and property rights and deferring to the legislative branches when at all possible.  One of the points Footnote Four made, however, was that enumerated rights have to have the strongest possible constitutional protection: &#8220;There may be narrower scope for operation of the presumption of constitutionality when legislation appears on its face to be within a specific prohibition of the Constitution, such as those of the first ten amendments, which are deemed equally specific when held to be embraced within the Fourteenth.”  The Second Amendment, then, if anything has to have at least as much protection as the right to privacy and other unenumerated rights.</li>
<li>Finally, it is startling that not only does a fundamental constitutional right hang by a one-vote thread, but its application to the states is similarly tenuous.  There but for the grace of God goes any right &#8212; and any limitation on government power.  As I said yesterday, &#8220;Thank God that vote is Justice Thomas&#8217;s.&#8221;</li>
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<p>For more McDonald reaction, see <a href="http://joshblackman.com/blog/?p=4764&amp;utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+JoshBlackmansBlog+%28Josh+Blackman%27s+Blog%29&amp;utm_content=Bloglines">Josh Blackman&#8217;s remarkable series of blogposts</a>.</p>
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		<title>More on Property Rights (Plus Privileges, Immunities, Due Process)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ilya Shapiro</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>By Ilya Shapiro</p>Yesterday I blogged about the Florida property rights case, which I now consider the best unanimous opinion against my position I could ever imagine.  Although the property owners lost, four justices stood for the idea that courts no less than legislatures or executive bodies are capable of violating the Takings Clause (Fifth Amendment), while two others endorsed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Ilya Shapiro</p><p>Yesterday I <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/06/17/mixed-result-in-complicated-property-rights-case/">blogged about the Florida property rights case</a>, which I now consider the best unanimous opinion against my position I could ever imagine.  Although the property owners lost, four justices stood for the idea that courts no less than legislatures or executive bodies are capable of violating the Takings Clause (Fifth Amendment), while two others endorsed remedying such violations via Substantive Due Process (Fourteenth Amendment), and the remaining two didn&#8217;t express an opinion one way or the other.  For more on the case, see the blogposts of Cato adjunct scholars <a href="http://plf.typepad.com/plf/2010/06/judicial-takings-in-stop-the-beach-renourishment.html">Tim</a> <a href="http://plf.typepad.com/plf/2010/06/further-thoughts-on-stop-the-beach-renourishment.html">Sandefur</a>, <a href="http://volokh.com/2010/06/17/unclear-outcome-in-key-supreme-court-property-rights-case/">Ilya Somin</a>, and <a href="http://volokh.com/2010/06/17/so-why-not-roe/">David</a> <a href="http://volokh.com/2010/06/17/a-funny-thing-about-substantive-due-process/">Bernstein</a>.</p>
<p>An interesting side note involves Justice Scalia&#8217;s excoriation of Substantive Due Process (and Justice Kennedy&#8217;s use of it):</p>
<blockquote><p>Moreover, and more importantly, JUSTICE KENNEDY places no constraints whatever upon this Court. Not only does his concurrence only think about applying Substantive Due Process; but because Substantive Due Process is such a wonderfully malleable concept, see, e.g., Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U. S. 558, 562 (2003) (referring to “liberty of the person both in its spatial and in its more transcendentdimensions”), even a firm commitment to apply it would bea firm commitment to nothing in particular.</p>
<p>…</p>
<p>The great attraction of Substantive Due Process as a substitute for more specific constitutional guarantees is that it never means never—because it never means anything precise.</p></blockquote>
<p>Scalia also calls Kennedy&#8217;s method &#8220;Orwellian&#8221;  &#8212; after having said that Justice Breyer uses a &#8220;Queen-of-Hearts&#8221; approach &#8220;reminiscent of the perplexing question how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?&#8221;  Really, this is classic Scalia, a delight to read (<a href="http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-1151.pdf">and you should, here</a>).</p>
<p><span id="more-16690"></span>The problem with what Scalia says, as <a href="http://joshblackman.com/blog/?p=4639">Josh Blackman points out</a>, is that the Court is about to release its opinion in the Chicago gun case, <em>McDonald v. Chicago</em> and, based on the oral argument, <a href="http://joshblackman.com/blog/?p=4648">is about to incorporate the Second Amendment via Substantive Due Process</a>.  If SDP is so bad, how can Scalia (endorsed by Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Thomas and Alito) use it to protect a &#8220;new&#8221; right? &#8212; particularly when the Privileges or Immunities Clause was created for just this purpose!  One answer is that, to Scalia, &#8220;babble&#8221; &#8212; his term for SDP &#8211; is still worth more than &#8220;flotsam&#8221; (his term for P or I), <a href="http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v32n3/cpr32n3-4.html">as I discuss here</a>.  Another is that, to put it bluntly, Scalia is a results-oriented non-originalist, <a href="http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=11431">as Josh and I discuss here</a>.</p>
<p>Speaking of Blackman-Shapiro collaborations, for the correct way to apply the right to keep and bear arms to the states, see <a href="http://www.cato.org/pubs/articles/ilya-shapiro-keeping-pandoras-box-sealed.pdf">our law review article called &#8220;Keeping Pandora&#8217;s Box Sealed.&#8221;</a>  And Tim Sandefur, who authored <a href="http://www.cato.org/pubs/legalbriefs/mcdonald_v_chicago.pdf">Cato&#8217;s <em>McDonald</em> brief</a> (read <a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/11/23/cato-files-brief-to-extend-second-amendment-rights-provide-protections-for-privileges-or-immunities/">a summary here</a>) just published a fascinating related article called <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1516667">&#8220;Privileges, Immunities, and Substantive Due Process.&#8221;</a>  I haven&#8217;t read it yet but am very much looking forward to it. </p>
<p>Tim also recently wrote a book defending economic liberties (which Justice Scalia also disparages in his <em>Stop the Beach</em> opinion), called <em><a href="http://store.cato.org/index.asp?fa=ProductDetails&amp;method=&amp;pid=1441465">The Right to Earn a Living: Economic Liberty and the Law</a></em>.  I hear it makes for good beach reading.</p>
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